What. The. Hell. * soapbox warning *
What. The. Hell. * soapbox warning *
Maternity services should be optional?!? Cthulu fhtagn. I did the ever-popular high-level research of looking this particular thing up online and OMG. The misogyny, chauvinism, bigotry, prejudice, ignorance, stupidity, hypocrisy - almost entirely from the rightward leaning half of the political disorder spectrum - that informs this garbage is disgusting.
I will address but one of these in specific. Why should men pay for maternity coverage? Because until science advances a very long way, you still need one to get pregnant. So yes, they should have to pay for the medical coverage that cares for the pregnancy and the pregnant person. Because in spite of the fact they would seemingly like to claim otherwise, men as well as women in society in general benefit from having other healthy, functional human beings around. Once again, science has not yet advanced to the place where all humans can be replaced by robots. Including the ones who didn't want to pay for coverage of medical care to make more humans.
Do not get me started on the fact that most maternity coverage still has the garbage religious patriarchy crap of it only kicks in after a year. Frak you and your nonsense moral judgments.
Yeah. Cut maternity benefits. That's a great way to save money on medical care. Because NOBODY will be born out of that mess with permanent medical issues that end up being a cost burden to the rest of society, because you will NEVER lose the useful labeled with a dollar value contributions of a woman who becomes ill or disabled and also then becomes a financial burden on society.
What math and idiotic algorithms and analyses are these people inventing that tell them this is a brilliant long term strategy, even on a money basis?
PEOPLE ARE NOT AN ABSTRACT BUSINESS PROBLEM.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/02/22/516465156/gop-seeks-reduction-in-health-law-s-10-essential-benefits
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/02/22/516465156/gop-seeks-reduction-in-health-law-s-10-essential-benefits
Maternity services should be optional?!? Cthulu fhtagn. I did the ever-popular high-level research of looking this particular thing up online and OMG. The misogyny, chauvinism, bigotry, prejudice, ignorance, stupidity, hypocrisy - almost entirely from the rightward leaning half of the political disorder spectrum - that informs this garbage is disgusting.
I will address but one of these in specific. Why should men pay for maternity coverage? Because until science advances a very long way, you still need one to get pregnant. So yes, they should have to pay for the medical coverage that cares for the pregnancy and the pregnant person. Because in spite of the fact they would seemingly like to claim otherwise, men as well as women in society in general benefit from having other healthy, functional human beings around. Once again, science has not yet advanced to the place where all humans can be replaced by robots. Including the ones who didn't want to pay for coverage of medical care to make more humans.
Do not get me started on the fact that most maternity coverage still has the garbage religious patriarchy crap of it only kicks in after a year. Frak you and your nonsense moral judgments.
Yeah. Cut maternity benefits. That's a great way to save money on medical care. Because NOBODY will be born out of that mess with permanent medical issues that end up being a cost burden to the rest of society, because you will NEVER lose the useful labeled with a dollar value contributions of a woman who becomes ill or disabled and also then becomes a financial burden on society.
What math and idiotic algorithms and analyses are these people inventing that tell them this is a brilliant long term strategy, even on a money basis?
PEOPLE ARE NOT AN ABSTRACT BUSINESS PROBLEM.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/02/22/516465156/gop-seeks-reduction-in-health-law-s-10-essential-benefits
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/02/22/516465156/gop-seeks-reduction-in-health-law-s-10-essential-benefits
I came across this thread which was a direct response to Ryan's tweet about this issue...https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/834273074312859648
ReplyDeleteThat's a good one. I just want to look at the almost always financially moderately secure individuals who want an a la carte plan and ask if they've ever eaten at a true restaurant where you can order prix fixe or a la carte. Compare the cost of ordering a la carte. Now tell me about how this saves money.
ReplyDeleteMan. I remember when I had my own health insurance how terrified I was about having sex. I couldn't afford the extra $150/month price that would cover having a baby and pregnancy is always a pre-existing condition. Fuck these people.
ReplyDeleteJust had a thought related to that Twitter thread...Women need maternity insurance until age 50 or so, men need prostate cancer insurance after. 😃
ReplyDeleteMen need prostate and testicular insurance their whole lives. Yes there are peaks at various times, but they always have the equipment, so it can always malfunction.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's how people should think of it. Plumbing insurance. Uteri and ovaries need to come with a pregnancy warranty, so do prostates and testicles. Actually, prostates and testicles can cause pregnancy their entire existence, so really, they need more pregnancy insurance.
Well, yes, I was attempting (poorly) to be pithy.
ReplyDeleteI would be thrilled if there were an insurance plan available to me without maternity coverage. Also without coverage of routine doctor appointments.
ReplyDeleteI think there used to be just catastrophic plans? Thing is, it is like the a la carte menu thing. It is never as cheap as you think it could be and running health insurance that way makes it unaffordable or inaccessible for everybody.
ReplyDeleteThere were those, once. I'd get one if I could, but I can't, so I continue without insurance.
ReplyDeleteMen/Women who cannot/do not intend to be pregnant should pay for maternity care for the same reason young, healthy people need to pay for insurance so that the elderly and otherwise infirm people in society have their costs spread to a larger pool. Not to mention collective bargaining, etc., any time there is selectivity in medical care, there is inequality in medical care. End of story. That's the whole reason the single payer system is so terrifying for the "I've got mine" mentality and why the healthcare system is so eternally f(^)*d up.
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