This was the least awful link I could find for this, but it is still horrible.
This was the least awful link I could find for this, but it is still horrible. If it will not trigger, and I honestly cannot see how it would not, read the Rolling Stone article that finally got some action on this. It is horrible and will ruin everything. It is a blunt and extensive piece that should be required as the start of a discussion of the difference between violence and sex, and how, no, it is not just a kinky choice of consenting adults. It's a crime.
http://www.businessinsider.com/uva-president-teresa-a-sullivan-suspends-all-campus-frats-2014-11
This has been going on lots of places and continues to go on. It is beyond belief that this continues to happen and continues to be treated essentially as a boys will be boys and girls are responsible for themselves piece of garbage (or that there is only heterosexual rape). And I wish I could say that I think anything will change. I don't. Big deal, one university is depriving its fraternities of their Christmas parties*. Which is all it does, btw, it's a short term temporary suspension.
According to one piece, the "nuclear option" is pulling Federal funding. No. The "nuclear option" is forcing any university that continues to condone any such culture to be shut down and required to find another school for their students. The "nuclear option" would be to not just sue the universities and fraternities under Title IX, but to file criminal charges against the university administrators as accessories to the crime.
*It's also impacting groups that are music fraternities, or social service sororities, or professional groups, etc. that are not traditional social greek organizations. I consider that a perfectly acceptable situation. Rename and dissociate from the Greek naming convention and move on. It has long since become irretrievably tarnished.
http://www.businessinsider.com/uva-president-teresa-a-sullivan-suspends-all-campus-frats-2014-11
http://www.businessinsider.com/uva-president-teresa-a-sullivan-suspends-all-campus-frats-2014-11
This has been going on lots of places and continues to go on. It is beyond belief that this continues to happen and continues to be treated essentially as a boys will be boys and girls are responsible for themselves piece of garbage (or that there is only heterosexual rape). And I wish I could say that I think anything will change. I don't. Big deal, one university is depriving its fraternities of their Christmas parties*. Which is all it does, btw, it's a short term temporary suspension.
According to one piece, the "nuclear option" is pulling Federal funding. No. The "nuclear option" is forcing any university that continues to condone any such culture to be shut down and required to find another school for their students. The "nuclear option" would be to not just sue the universities and fraternities under Title IX, but to file criminal charges against the university administrators as accessories to the crime.
*It's also impacting groups that are music fraternities, or social service sororities, or professional groups, etc. that are not traditional social greek organizations. I consider that a perfectly acceptable situation. Rename and dissociate from the Greek naming convention and move on. It has long since become irretrievably tarnished.
http://www.businessinsider.com/uva-president-teresa-a-sullivan-suspends-all-campus-frats-2014-11
I was just reading this.
ReplyDeleteThat's a +1 to your remarks, naturally.
ReplyDeleteThe Rolling Stone article was linked from MetaFilter last week. It was very, very tough to read. But I am grateful to them for doing the journalism.
Jesus Fucking Christ. What the fuck is wrong with people, that two years ago a group of teenagers decided attending parties was more important than getting their friend to the hospital after a brutal gang rape?!
ReplyDeletePeople are self serving assholes.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how you live with yourself after that, I really don't.
ReplyDeletethat's because you're not a self serving asshole! Thank god.
ReplyDeleteNot an expert, not on TV. Pretty sure this is a well researched psycho social phenomenon. It's like in the movie A Few Good Men (gods help me I'm quoting a movie), nobody wrote down where the mess hall was, but everybody knew, so nobody had to write down what a code red was, everybody knew, and everybody condoned it tacitly or actively or they committed suicide literally or figuratively.
ReplyDeleteIt's referred to as Peer Pressure, as if it's some relatively harmless phase people grow out of as they try to find themselves as adults.
It's how you get witch trials, and mobs, and concentration camps that "nobody knew about". On the last it's pretty clear at this point that everybody knew but were terrified, on board with the whole process even if not directly participating, or a few people tried to help or stop it at great personal risk. Funny how that sounds an awful lot like the details in the Rolling Stone article.
What no one said in any of the articles is whether there has been any permanent physical damage and whether anyone has come up positive for things like HIV and Hepatitis C and HPV associated cervical cancer. Statistically, so much violence has occurred that it is incredibly improbable that no one has suffered permanent physical harm and been exposed to infections that cause lifelong issues, if not life threatening issues. If not, that is good fortune that stretches credibility.